On Thursday, Porterville Police Detectives received information that Steven Patrick Arthur possibly possessed child pornography in his home.
A search warrant was served at Arthur’s house in the 800 block of W Sandra.
Detectives located numerous items, photographs and video of pornography involving young children.
Police say that further evidence revealed Arthur and his girlfriend, Jennifer Lynn Thurman of Reedley, had physically molested young children in the home and recorded their activities.
At least four young victims have been identified and the investigation is continuing. Both suspects are being held at the Tulare County Jail without bail.
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I must in all good and faithful honesty, tell everyone that I am the AUNT of Steven Arthur. I know a lot about who Steve is, what he has or has not done, and or why...I also know that this J. thirman witch was the one who drugged the girls and Steve. While she filmed whatever happened from there.
He is not a rapist or a monster! He was a paramedic for years, he is a family man with kids, and I hope that witch rots in hell for trying to sudce and get money for child porn...My Nephew is not guilty of these charges against hin, no matter what he is charged with, it is my belief that he is innocent due to temporay drug induced actions. He did not kill anyone, torture or rape, burn to death, drown or otherwise horrid stories which compare if anyone wants to look up the cases of David Rathenberg and Mary Vincent, and these monsters got out in 7 yrs!!! Steve is lonely, hurt, confused and lost everything he has ever had. Now he must contend with the hard core people who would like to believe he is guilty without even a trial, or proof of his guilt, or the extent of it.'
I ask you to not judge this youngman who has never had a charge of any type against him...this case is a weird unjust illusion started by the insanuty of a drug using girlfriend and a camera....For Gods sake people please give hin the right to defend hinself before his peers...he is innocent of these charghes..he is a good and decent man, I can;t say the same for the woman...but yes, she'll turn and say it was all his doing...for her own protection..she is a liar and a witch that when it all comes down to who did what, she will get what;s coming to her!
She is nothing more than a money hungry insane drugged bitch! And how convienient that her Father is a cheif of police...well, right there...someone with a law degree should change venue and also bring in a physciatric evaluation to prove with or without lie detectors that Steve does not even remnember these charges.
What I see is a woman evil enough to set him up, drug him as well as drug the children..then sit there and film film film....God have mercy on those who declare him guilty before knowing the facts!
"I know a lot about who Steve is, what he has or has not done"
No ma'am. No you don't KNOW whether he has done this or not. Unless you were with him 24/7 there is no way you could KNOW this.
What YOU know about him is what he chooses to let you know.
You are a prime example of an enabler. You love him? Fine, offer him financial support, or emotional support, but that's really all you're good for in this.
He only did it because his girlfriend drugged him against his will and forced him to sexually assault children? Is that your position? Did she also FORCE him to keep the videos of what he did?
You are a fool. Fortunately the rest of the world isn't.
"He did not kill anyone, torture or rape, burn to death, drown or otherwise horrid stories"
And you think that's a defense? YOU are as much a part of the problem as he is. Shame on you.
I am no fool...my step father was a pedophil and I know one when I see one!
Yes, he is innocewnt! The woman drugged him, and to his knowledge there was no filming, pictures or harm to anyone done. Not even the children involved were aware of anything done..he didn't cut them to pieces, set them on fire...he is totally unaware of what occurred..he wasn't holding the camera!
I must also add, that the real evil in this world gets away with murder.. Susan Smith and that other witch who drowned her 5 or 6 children!!
For God sake where is the mercy, while he lays in a teeny cell on a 3" mattress, lost everything he ever had...hearing chanting at night "You're a dead man bitch"
Yes, I love him, and Yes I know him...his children alone speak to the issue that their daddy never once ever hurt them! A paramedic for 12 yrs! "Baby raping?" God please help the people who would rather act this out as a movie...KIll the monster, and in the end, the only monster were the people who killed him!
Sincerely,
His Aunt.
"He was a paramedic for years..."
And how, exactly, does being a paramedic make him a good person? There are bad, sick, twisted, and demented people in every profession...there have been teachers, lawyers, politicians, doctors, boyscout leaders, police officers, firemen, and, yes, paramedics charged as found guilty of sex offenses against children in the past few years alone. To wit:
David Harnett
Jamie Thomas Clark
Michael L. Rosier
David Spresny
Ryan Drysdale
John Eric Gilliam
Darold E. Borowiak
Luis Ponce
David E. Bartling
Timothy Brian Kauffman
Jason Inman
Edward Raven Odom
Shayne Shults
Jason Heller
Robert Arida
Lester Boney
Matthew D. Kendall
Richard Neal Barash
Jason F. Schoeppner
Mark Mull
Calvin Saylors Jr
Lawrence Lewis
Dennis Catucci
Douglas Roberts
James Russell
Earl Burney
What you may ask does Steven Arthur have in common with these 26 men? The answer is a simple. All these men have been are currently in litigation for, or have been found guilty of, sexual offenses against children in the past few years. They are also ALL paramedics.
"An occupation should never be used to judge a person's true character. Evil does not define itself by these boundaries."
If anything, a person who's occupation puts them in a position of trust should be penalized more harshly than others.
"My Nephew is not guilty of these charges against hin, no matter what he is charged with, it is my belief that he is innocent due to temporay drug induced actions."
And now YOU are judging someone without knowing all the facts. Because even though you may be his aunt, I seriously doubt you really know this man or what he is or is not capable of. No one wants to believe that a monster is within their midst.
I'd also say that his ambulance company better take very close stock of their controlled substances...I'll bet they're missing some. If these children were drugged and don't have recall of the incidents, then that tells me(a paramedic) that they were most likely drugged with Versed. A drug carried by most paramedic-level ambulance services. A drug that has strong anterograde amnestics properties. A drug that a paramedic could EASILY put their hands upon.
"Steve is lonely, hurt, confused and lost everything he has ever had."
Good. Anyone who abuses children in this manner should lose everything. They should live out the remainder of their sorry ass lives in prison too.
"I ask you to not judge this youngman who has never had a charge of any type against him..."
Why not? You've already judged him. You've proclaimed him "innocent" in typical enabler style.
"For Gods sake people please give hin the right to defend hinself before his peers...he is innocent of these charghes..he is a good and decent man..."
I doubt that..but time will tell. I hope when he's found guilty that you'll disown him and do whatever you can to support the children he abused. The people to whom support should really be directed.
"she is a liar and a witch that when it all comes down to who did what, she will get what;s coming to her!"
So, will he I hope.
"She is nothing more than a money hungry insane drugged bitch!
And how convienient that her Father is a cheif of police..."
So we can't judge him..but you can judge her? Rather hypocritical dontcha think? Personally, I hope they both rot in jail.
"What I see is a woman evil enough to set him up, drug him as well as drug the children..then sit there and film film film....God have mercy on those who declare him guilty before knowing the facts!"
You should take your own advice maybe. Sorry Genie, but you need to do some real hard thinking on who to support here, the bad parents...or the victims. I have little doubt that Steven will be found guilty. Blindly supporting someone just because they're a family member is silly. Worse yet are those that enable these offenders despite knowing their guilt. I hope that when the truth finally does come out that you and the rest of your family will support those who truly deserve it and stop making excuses for the perpetrators of an evil crime.
"he didn't cut them to pieces, set them on fire...he is totally unaware of what occurred..he wasn't holding the camera!"
Of course he wasn't holding the camera, he was the one doing the assaulting.
Genie here has a new idea about baby rapers.....she doesn't think it's a bad thing as long as they don't cut the children into pieces or set them on fire.
Okay,
Some of you folks are more than fair in your comments back to me. I appeicate that.
I also understand that you don't love him, he isn't your family, and I am very quick to judge these type people myself...I just can't hardly fathom this entire thing. I didn't come here to argue, and I see your point about all the charged paramedics..I didn't know that. I thought they were upstanding people, and clean records and such.
I feel hurt, embarrassed and foolish.
No, to the one poster, it is not alright to ever harm a child, just because he wasn't maiming them or killing them. I have no clue of his involement, other than what was told to me by those who do know. That Ms Thurman has a simular record. Steve does not.
His daughter pleads that her daddy never has done anything to her..she is in a state of shock, and of course everyone who knows her, and his other children are hate mongers and they come home crying every day from comments about their Father.
Granted, if this is true, I wish I was dead...because it was my life for 16 long years.
I never received justice for that man's crimes.
All in all, you've been kind considering I came across as a defending ill informed Aunt..almost suggesting if he killed a cat and hung it upside down it was fine with me....I HATE child molesters and people who harm innocent babies and animals...I'm an advocate against this in more ways than I could ever say.
Thank you for hearing me out, for being reasonably decent, more so than I would have expected considering I have done just what you charged me with. Passed judgment on Ms Thurman and claimed my Nephews innocese without proof of either.
The family is just frazzled. I don't want to see him killed in prison, and if it turns out that he did it,and found guilty I will still love him, but I will just pray he is serving time for whatever he has or has not done in a secure area.
He has no more family, home, job and yes, whose fault is it?
I don't know.by now I am at a complete loss, seeing a child whose only interest in life while growing up, was to be a Dr.
But there are bad Dr's also.
I'll hush with my defense tactics...and thank you each and every one for your curtusy in which case you did not have to give to me. What you wrote was fair.
What I wrote was emotional. And God bless the beasts and the children. I am a Mother, and I'd want to kill anyone who would hurt my baby girl..I am not without understanding here. I am just sick...I can't help. I've always been there to help, this time I can do nothing.
Sincerely,
Jeannie
Firstly, I want to say to Genie that I admire her ability to take a step back and rethink her position on this issue and to state what she did publicly. That took courage and guts. I respect that. I think everyone here respects that.
So..that being said, here's my response:
"I also understand that you don't love him, he isn't your family, and I am very quick to judge these type people myself...I just can't hardly fathom this entire thing."
Genie, no one wants to believe that a family member could be capable of crimes like these. But, as a survivor yourself, you should know that what lies beneath the surface of an individual isn't necessarily as outward appearance and/or public behavior would have you believe. The victims are the ones who need your love and support...much. much more than this grown man. Reserve your judgement. Let him have his day in court, but support his victims in the meantime. They have suffered horrendous abuse and had the only family they've known ripped apart by the selfish, sick acts of deviant adults. That's incredibly sad. And they need what family they have left to help them heal.
"I see your point about all the charged paramedics..I didn't know that. I thought they were upstanding people, and clean records and such."
Yea, incredible, huh? I didn't realize there was quite so many until I researched it last night myself. I knew of a few recently that stuck out in my mind...and I know that people from ALL walks of life and all "upstanding professions" have been convicted of charges like these. It all goes back to the old adage of, don't judge a book by it's cover."
I feel hurt, embarrassed and foolish.
You shouldn't..but maybe that's what it'll take to have you make a chance. To make a stand. To stop being a "victim" of past abuse and become a survivor. Many of us, but not all, are also survivors of child sexual abuse. We've chosen to take a stand and not sit passively back and let child molestors and pedophiles run unchecked anymore. We fight back daily...we try to make a difference. This blog here is merely a small part of our collective efforts.
I have no clue of his involement, other than what was told to me by those who do know.
I'm glad you admitted this. Now keep in mind that those people probably only know what was told to them. Which may or may not be the truth. Time will tell.
"His daughter pleads that her daddy never has done anything to her..she is in a state of shock, and of course everyone who knows her, and his other children are hate mongers and they come home crying every day from comments about their Father."
Keep in mind that many abuse victims first deny being abused. IF these kids were given Versed, they would have no recall of the events. But they may remember everything up to the point of being drugged...just nothing after. Versed is a drug common to paramedic services. It would have been fairly easy for him to get his hands on. Many kids abused by their parents are still fiercly loyal to them. They're frightened and scared of never seeing again the only close family they've known.
And it's horrible that people would cause these children further hurt. I be in close contact with the school if this is the case. They should be putting a quick end to it. It's intolerable and inexcusable.
"...if this is true, I wish I was dead...because it was my life for 16 long years."
These children being abused isn't your fault. you can only control what you can control. And that's how you support them now.
The family is just frazzled.
That's entirely understandable.
"I don't want to see him killed in prison, and if it turns out that he did it,and found guilty I will still love him, but I will just pray he is serving time for whatever he has or has not done in a secure area."
Most offenders against children are kept in segregated areas for their own protection.
"He has no more family, home, job and yes, whose fault is it?
I don't know."
If he's found guilty...it's his own fault that he's lost those things. His and his alone.
"I am not without understanding here. I am just sick...I can't help. I've always been there to help, this time I can do nothing"
Of there's plenty you can "do" Firstly, being supporting those who need it most..the kids. Reserve your judgment on him until the facts come out in court. Be an advocate for those children...I'm sure they desperately need someone in their corner. If there's video evidence of this abuse...especially is he's seen in that video evidence there's little about the abuse of these children to be refuted.
~messy
With my deepest thanks to those kind people here who took another look at who I am, and who I'd never ever want to be.
My life was a piyiful mess with a Mother who didn't believe a word I tried to tellher. So I left home at 16.
I should have known better, as you said..they don't wear signs and even look the part do they?
I will see about what I can do for the little ones harmed here, although my name will not be impressing the parents in the least and I understand that too.
Tears keep flowing, but knowing that you don't hate me for being so stupid to defend the "Undefendable" actions helps to sleep a little better.
How quick I was to not believe..and now I see why my Mother didn't either. She didn't want to believe it. He has since(my own step father) admitted to it all, but Mother died of Cancer.
And he still walks the streets unscathed. My word against his, and I see now, these little ones words against Steve's or whever else was inbolved.
Thank you again for giving me kimndness in return for my sloppy arrogance.
"With my deepest thanks to those kind people here who took another look at who I am, and who I'd never ever want to be."
You're quite welcome Genie. You seem like a good woman, with a good heart...and a good head on her shoulders. It's natural to want to defend one's family members; unfortunately, sometimes they just don't deserve a defense though.
"My life was a piyiful mess with a Mother who didn't believe a word I tried to tellher. So I left home at 16."
So you understand. You can relate to the conflict, pain, and confusion these children are going thru. Who better than YOU then to help them get thru it?
"I should have known better, as you said..they don't wear signs and even look the part do they?"
Nope, they certainly don't. Pedophiles are MASTER manipulators. They need to be likeable to procure their victims. Deceit...it's what they do best.
"I will see about what I can do for the little ones harmed here"
Good. They need love and support. And most of all, they need to know this wasn't their fault.
"Tears keep flowing, but knowing that you don't hate me for being so stupid to defend the "Undefendable" actions helps to sleep a little better."
No, no one here dislikes you. It takes a lot of grace and courage to be able to rethink your position on a matter like this..especially when it hits so close to home.
If it's not too triggering for you, you should check out pjfi.org and sign up for their forums there. They have a wonderful private forum for survivors of childhood sexual abuse and the people in the general forums might provide you with a lot of insight and help you work through this difficult time in your life as well. You can find me there too under the same user name.
Whatever you decide, good luck and God bless. I wish you and those kids all the best. Do good by them. They need it.
Genie, I can tell you I don't hold anything that your nephew has done against you, however, he IS guilty. My daughter went to his house to spend the night, her very first slumber party, and she became a victim. They are BOTH very much wrong, and THEY BOTHY deserve punishment. I have seen the videos, I have seen the pictures. It kills me. The images will not go away. Neither had the right to do what they did. My daughter and the other victims are the ONLY innocent ones in this case. I feel bad for your family but he chose his path. I did not choose to have these tormenting pictures forever burned into my brain. Or the nightmares that they have caused. No the kids do not remember, THANK GOD!!! Bit it DID happen. I saw his hands on my daughter. So please, feel for his victims, not the evil that did it.
For "JUSTME"
OMG! I am so horrified, so much of this feedsa to my own child abuse.
I have the greatest empathy, and plead for your dear innocent child to recover from this.
I want to change my name..Yes it is Arthur.
I have been writing him(STeve) less, because I can't think of anything to say. It's his Father, my brother who cries, I worry this will kill him. Both boys have never been good at helping, my brother was my soul defender when I was little..he had a sense, not a knowledge..he was like a Father. He took me everywehere, I was safe in his care.
Now, this good man, must face the neighbors and the city and the world in reality for what his son did.
Thank you for not feeling hate toward me. I did not know all of this that you've told me..
I would sadly agree that if this is so, and I am sure you are truthful, he does deserve whatever punishment is due. It has destroyed whatever life he, his brother, Father or me might have ever enjoyed togeather.
God bless you, if there is anything I can do to help your child, please contact me. I live at POB#48 Deer Park, Wa 99006 my real name is Jeannie Arthur.
The POB is not for hiding, they do not deliver mail in this very country area outside of spokane county.... God be with you.
I am so sorry for your family. No one knows why people choose to do what they do. I now worry for your brother. I can't help but feel hatred toward afore mentioned evil, but I know what it is like to be a family member of a VERY public criminal. I will not go into details but my daughter, just last year was very close to someone else who did something very bad. She has had to deal with what he has done and now with this. I have been on both sides of the law in a round about way. I have done nothing wrong, and neither did the family of the man I just talked about. And neither have you or the rest of your family. I can see how you want to protect your own, and it does not bother me. I just wanted to set the story straight. I am so sorry for what you will go through. My daughter does not remember, but the hell we will ALL endure won't quickly be forgotten.
To all including or especially genie. it has come to my attention that you are defending steve and the horrible acts that he and jennifer both carried out against these children. you claim that he is not capable of doing these things how about sleeping with a sixteen year old girl while having two children of his own and then lying to his wife about it. but i am sure you being such a wonderful loving and caring aunt already knew about such things look it up heres a hint since i am sure you know nothing about it it happened when he was living in oklahoma and his youngest child 3 mos old. you may wonder how i know this so ill tell you i am the real father to his children and have been for the last four years of there lives. thats right i am married to his ex-wife and as such am very close to the case. now to address one of you earlier comments his daughter has never shed a tear for him other than asking why a person who was supposed to love her actually hurt her. She does not ever want to see him again and in fact has asked to be adopted by me so please dont lead people to believe that his children are supporting him because they are not they have seen like us the actual evidence and while i can not go into detail there is no doubt in their or our minds that he and jennifer did these horrible things. it will all come out when they go to court. while i can imagine you are hurt try to think about what hell he will put these children that you say he loves through by going through court. if he had a soul he would plead guilty and if you had one you would try and coinvince him to yourself. if he doesnt i do urge you to attend the court hearings so you can see what he has done for yourself. maybe then you can suffer the nightmares my wife and i have suffered along with our children. As far as him being drugged by her come on get real how long has it been since you last saw him hes a big guy and little jennifer drugged him ok? plus if you knew him so well then you surely know about the problem he has had with violence in the past on his other girlfriends. our family is trying to deal with this the best we can to move on and not let our daughters life be ruined by him or her for that matter. you do not have to choose to believe anything i am saying if this is the case then please attend the court hearings and watch what those two did for yourself then maybe you will realize it was not just her. to all those who have support our side of what happened my wife and i thank you very much. it helps to see people just as outraged and hurt by this as we have been.
sincerely,
THE CHILDRENS TRUE FATHER
In reply to "The Real Family"
I stopped looking at this site, but it came to my E-mail address.
The parts that you have expressed so painfully, I think should not be aimed at me, the Aunt.
I have made my apologies and thanked the group for not including me in something I did not have anything to do with, and of course any family member who loves someone wants to believe they are innocent of such a horrible thing.
Please don't find it so easy to say "Especially Genie"
You are showing anger toward me, when I want to not pursue this mess.
I have lived in the state of Washington for the past 20 years, making only visits.
My brother and I are very close.
He had nothing to do with this either. Both of our hearts go out to those children, and to all families.. including the evil homelife I grew up in.
I have stopped taking up for Steve, if you will take notice, and I have apologised for blaming just the young lady involved.
I have not seen the tapes, I have not been to the court.. when my Mother was alive, and I was living near my brother and his wife and kids, I was a good Aunt. I remember the children as two toe headed litle boys, and their sister a shy quite little doll much like me...I love those children. They are now grown adults..and I am not in their life much these days.
If you could please find it in your heart not to put me down as you have, publicly..I hurt enough over it all as it is.
Thank you.
~Jeannie or (Genie) a 61 yr old woman willing to help any child, as I know far well what abuse does to the heart and soul. I have spent a lifetime of memories that what was done to me, went by like nothing. I was not helped, I was not belived. My only escape was leaving that enviroment at 16 yrs old. So stupid, I didn't even know I could have called the police..and on the other hand, Mother always said..NOT TRUE! But, if it was... please don't ruin her life.....okay. When she was dying of Cancer, I was the first person she called, as I am in the medical field. I took my legally owned gun with me..while taking care of her, as best I could..I warned my abuser..I would KILL him if he as much as touched me! For 3 long weeks I wore the gun on a belt, day and night. Momma passed away 3 1/2 weeks later...and I returned home knowing I was capable and still am, of killing this monster. So I make certain I am never anywhere that he lives...which is in beautiful Arizona..enjoying his life..Please...let this end. I am not a child molester, I am guilty of nothing but loving my nephew(the one I knew..one as a child) Loving my family, my brother..all innoceent in my eyes. Of course Steve obviously is not.
Still, does not our country state "Innocent until proven guilty?"
God, please I beg of you, leave me be. I am not trying to harm anyone.
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I have especially found comfort, and understanding from "messymedic"
I have re thought my origonal comments..I also have not been back to cause trouble...so I would appreciate the fact that "The Real Family" takes note: that I am also "REAL FAMILY, along with my poor brother who is the most decent man I know. His health fails him in the midst of it all, and anyone who is aware of my situation, knows that I need a liver transplant. No fault of my own. I don't even drink. Do you truly believe that people in their 60's are going to get on here, with lives they are trying to conduct each day, just to hash over something they didn't even do?
Realfamily, I believe Genie has shown true remorse for her initial distorted view. She has both expressed it and apologized for it. Therefore, I think it only fitting that she be treated with dignity and respect. She committed no offense against these children that we know of. And I truly think she is coming to understand how her nephew done what he has been accused of.
You're right when you say if he has a heart or any remorse at all for what he has done, that he will plead guilty and not put those children through any more torment by having to re-live their abuze in a courtroom. Since there's video evidence of these crimes, I don't think there's much room to doubt his implication in these crimes. If he was under the influence of drugs, I'd imagine that they were drugs he took of his own accord. I highly doubt the notion that his girlfriend held him down and "made him do it."
I'm glad that these girls have another male influence in their lives. Perhaps they can come to understand that not all men are so screwed up and that what happened to them was in no way justifible.
I'm also of the opinion that CSA victims can us support from whatever recpetive family members they do have. I would hope that realfamily would allow Genie and any other member of this man's family who can responsibly support these children in their recovery and lives to do so. Merely being related to an offender does not automatically make them bad, or non-understading or sympathetic people.
I'm glad we were able to change Genie's views on her nephew and who it was that really deserved to have her support. She didn't argue. I believe she really thought about her life, experiences, and what has transpired before she made what I view as a heartfelt change of position. As I've said before, no one wants to believe that a family member could be capable of such atrocities. Its a natural instinct to want to defend one's family.
Since Genie has displayed a change of heart regarding her stance on Steven, I'd ask that no one condemns her for initially displaying that reaction. The enenmy lies within Steven Arthur, his family members that had nothing to do with perpetuating the abuse of these children shouldn't be dragged into it merely by association.
Anyhow, I am glad you're all here. Perhaps this can be the first step in making amends between familes and doing whats in the best interest of helping these child victims move past what's happened to them and onto happy, stable, and successful lives.
In Response to "the real family"
"She does not ever want to see him again and in fact has asked to be adopted by me so please dont lead people to believe that his children are supporting him because they are not they have seen like us the actual evidence and while i can not go into detail there is no doubt in their or our minds that he and jennifer did these horrible things."
I have known Steve personally for several years, and have spent time with his children and therefore know their ages. I would just like to know, why on earth you thought it would be appropriate for children their ages to see those videos...That is sick! It is never something they should have been subjected too! They could have known that there father did a horrible thing, and is being punished for it with out you allowing them to view sickening evidence of what he did. You should be ashamed of yourself, and the further trauma you have cause those children.
Why you dont know why the children have seen this evidence is simply because you have never been involved in a case like this who do you think the cops get their info from you idiot you think you have known steve but let me tell you you dont he is a creep do you know he had sex with a sixteen year old girl before moving to california or that he slept with his brothersd girlfriend or his sixteen year old babysitter sure you did i or we had no choice in what the detectives showed the kids if we did it would not have happened why dont you quit judging us because if know him and you are a a female you probably slept with him my children have been through hell because of him and will continue their hell why dont you just understand what happenend to them was because of him and not us we had no choice unttil you go through something like this you have no idea all we caqn hope for is that he and her burn in hell. dont judge us until u have lived through it. he is a piece of shit and desereves to die in prison along with her just think you were friends with someone who did this
To The "Real Family"..09-23-08
Steven has a "Real" family on both sides..you must remember that I did not start this up again..and had to plan to do so.
I must take a stand for myself, being his Aunt.
I don't think that anything but the charges which are undenialble horrible, should be at hand, you are bringing in "hearsay" to add to a boiling pot.
I have caused you no family problems, have I? I am not judging anyone, except those who will not sit back and allow the courts and the charges to be set in motion.
But you are not the only ones hurt in this, my innocent dear brother, and his other Son and daughter, and Steve's Mother and myself are all screwed before we can make an apology for someone else's actions. We did nothing. Guilt by assoccian? Relation? That is not fair!
Correct me please if I am reading this wrong, it said: "You are a female, you probably slept with him?" Are you out of your mind,this is my nephew. The closest I ever got to his little body parts was in changing his diapers, and holding him in my arms when he was born....what a discusting amount of hate you have for me. I understand your hate for Steve.
Few people know that I indeed lived a life of a abused little girl, a pedofile step Father and Mom waved away every attempt to tell her, until at 15 or 16, I left home to escape such abuse as I cannot describe without breaking down. I suffer Post Traumatic Stress from what he did to me...
and saying that, may I also say that he was not a friend, he is my Nephew.
A little hate builds and goes a long way, I know this first hand.
You wish him to burn in hell, I don't think that is your call..it's God's.
Or believe me, I once picked up a gun and was about to kill the molester my Mother married...in that year I would probably have been jailed for life..as no one took up for me.. my Brother, my dearest riend in the world, allowed his little sister to tag along, tears and all, he didn't know... Vernon Patrick liked little girls..and two against one, Mom might have believed. But I went everywhere with my big brother, he never shooshed me to the side, he saw something, but didn't know what..so he graciously and lovingly took me everywhere he could..in so, he protected me for a pedohile to this day I have heard lives happily in Phoenix, Az married to a woman named Linda...I'd love her to know what all evil that man did.
Here is a verse, I am sorry that you feel a need to pour salt in my wounds..as though I don't relate or care about these children?
Never wish death or hell on anyone, unless you are prepared for it yourself...it is not your choice to make.
Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
Well it goes like this: the fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, and the major lift
The baffled king composing hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to her kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Well baby, I’ve been here before
I’ve seen this room and I’ve walked this floor
You know, I used to live alone before I knew you
And I’ve seen your flag on the marble arch
And love is not a victory march
It’s a cold and it’s a broken hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Well There was a time when you let me know
What’s really going on below
But now you never show that to me, do you?
But remember when I moved in you
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew is Hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Well maybe there’s a God above
But all I’ve ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
And it’s not a cry that you hear at night
It’s not somebody who’s seen the light
It’s a cold and it’s a broken hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Hallelujah, hallelujah
Jeff Buckley Hallelujah lyrics
"Never wish death or hell on anyone, unless you are prepared for it yourself...it is not your choice to make."
It is ANYone's choice to WISH anything they want upon anyone.
Leonard Cohen wrote that song.
Just so you have your facts straight and all.
I am very well aware of who wrote that song and when in it's most touching moment was sung at the memorial by a firefiter for 9/11
The man I listed, I believe passed away. Many people have sang this beautiful song. It appears that you just want to agree...
My facts do not need to be perfect...are you perfect?
Dear God in heaven,
I pray for the chilren harmed by this entire horrid mess!
Of course they are the innocent, God love them. I did not dothis to them, I do not condone any such filthy actions on the part of my nephew.
Hate eats your heart, replaces love, forgivness and hope and the bitterness will eventually cause you more harm than he has caused.
I am speaking as a victim...not an Aunt.
You do not need to continue with this sordid wallowing. Steve's life is over as we know it, he knows it.
Must you zero in on a family member, who hurts enough without your ugly remarks toward me?
Your fury and your disgust is understandble..but you are pointing at the wrong person.
"My facts do not need to be perfect...are you perfect?"
If a FACT isn't perfect then it's not true and is therefore not a FACT. What's wrong with you?
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